This is a Review of Vintage Remedies and their online Competent Family Herbalist Course. I ask Angi Scheider of Scheiderpeeps to give her review of the courses at Vintage Remedies as she had a different experience with the school than I did. I want my readers to have both of our perspectives as they make their decisions about which online herbal courses are right for them.
Online Herbal classes are taught from many different perspectives and worldviews. While all online herbalism classes touch on scientific research, botany, anatomy, physiology, and historical and cultural uses of herbs for healing, each one places a different weight on the importance of these perspectives in the overall study of herbal medicine and herbal remedies.
In the previous posts I talked to you about The Chestnut School of Herbs’, Herbal Medicine Making Class, and The Herbal Academy‘s Beginner and Intermediate Herbal Classes. Today I want to talk to you about Vintage Remedies Competent Family Herbalist Class.
These three classes are foundational herbal classes. They give students of herbalism a strong foundation for advanced herbal studies. Each approaches the study of herbs with a different emphasis.
Review of Vintage Remedies’ Competent Family Herbalist Course
I personally didn’t enjoy the two short courses I enrolled in with Vintage Remedies. I didn’t like that I couldn’t get an overview of the whole course but had to approach each module as a separate unit. I didn’t like how broken up each lesson was, and the lack of written documentation for the videos. The videos were talking head videos, presented without transcripts.
I attributed my dissatisfaction to the fact that I am an auditory and kinesthetic learner, rather than a visual learner. I like to hold the whole book in my hand and read it all at once to get a feel for the total picture, then go back and approach each lesson and work through any exercises or recipes. In fact when reading a book, I will read the preface, introduction, and first chapter, and then jump to the last chapter to see where the author is coming from, before going back to the beginning of Chapter 1 again to read through the whole book. I learn best by immersion.
When I want to know something, I will take the 5 or 6 top books in the subject and read them cover to cover. Then I will practice what I learned from the books, to gain experience and body memory. If you just give me the first lesson and don’t let me go any further till I pass the test, I will be frustrated. This is not how I learn.
Since I was taking the two classes I enrolled in for personal enrichment, I didn’t want to “pass a test” just to be able to get to the next module. The tests weren’t easy multiple choice tests. There were short essay questions that required lengthy answers. Then you couldn’t just go to the next unit, once you finished the tests. You had to wait till a human marked your test and would tell you if you qualified to go to the next module. That seemed like a lot of work just to learn about making baby bum salve.
But then Vintage Remedies updated their course delivery system
Jesse Hawkins, Executive Director of The Vintage Remedies Learning Center sent an email update to their students, explaining changes that they made to the learning portal at Vintage Remedies. A few of these changes address the issues I had with the courses in the program, and I consider them significant enough that I no longer think they would be barriers to learning and enjoying the herbology programs at Vintage remedies.
The following is taken directly from the email I received:
2. The new upgrades include eliminating the barriers to course progress. This means you can now peek ahead at any future lessons you’d like to preview without having to take all of the tests and mark lessons as “complete.” Course blocking and gateways have all been removed.
3. Based on extensive student feedback, the upgrades also include a revised assessment format. We’ve eliminated the outdated gradebook format and replaced it with a competency based evaluation. Each module now concludes with a personal assessment quiz which is for your private use only.
Angi’s experience with Vintage Remedies
My friend Angi from Schneiderpeeps, had an entirely different experience with Vintage Remedies. Angi is a visual learner. I asked Angi if she would give you her review of Vintage Remedies and the classes she’s personally taken with the Vintage Remedies online school, to help you make your own decision of which online herbalism school is right for you.
Angi Schneider is a pastor’s wife, a homeschooling mother of 6, and grandma to 1. Angi and her famly live on 1.5 acres in Texas and enjoy a large garden with prolific fruit trees. I’ve been the recipient of Angi’s generosity on more than one occassion when her meyer lemon trees were in season. Angi is the author of The Gardening Notebook, Hope — Thriving While Unemployed, The Busy Mom’s Guide, and the Wellness Notebook.
Here is Angi’s perspective on the Vintage Remedies Herbal Classes
Why did you choose Vintage Remedies for your online Herbal classes?
There are several reasons that I chose Vintage Remedies for my online herbal class but I’ll limit my answer to my top two.
The first reason is that the information is written from a Christian worldview instead of a pagan worldview. However, the course is not full of scripture and I don’t think someone who is not a Christian would be offended by the material as it is not overly Christian. There is just the absence of pagan and new age terminology and ideas.
The second reason that I chose Vintage Remedies is because it is evidenced based. Over and over as I read through the material, there are footnotes to studies that support herbal usage. I have many health care practitioners in my extended family and I wanted to be able to cite studies that supported our choice to use alternative medical care before conventional medical care.
Have you done any other formal study of herbs and herbal medicine?
No, up until enrolling in the Family Herbalist course with Vintage Remedies all of my herbal learning has been self taught.
How long have you been studying at Vintage Remedies?
I have been studying at Vintage Remedies for almost a year.
How many Vintage Remedy classes have you completed?
I have completed one short course and I’m working on the Competent Family Herbalist course and the Aromatic Medicine course. I’ve also enrolled my teenage daughter in their Healthy Home and Essential Oils short courses as part of her high school Health class credit.
What is your favorite part about your classes?
I think my favorite part of the Competent Family Herbalist is that the course actually starts with understanding how the body works and what nutrients it needs. Then, there is an emphasis on eating real foods before moving on to using herbs as medicine.
What challenges have you faced in completing the course?
Time has been a challenge but I think that would be the case with any course at this point in my life. One of the good things, and bad things, about Vintage Remedies courses is that it used to be that you could not look ahead in modules. There used to be physical books that were part of the Competent Family Herbalist course and I liked to look ahead in those, but not the online portion. They used to make you go one module at a time. It’s good because it made me actually complete the projects before moving on as I have a trouble completing things sometimes. However, I can see how that could irritate someone who is more diligent than I am and would never think about skipping a project.
Since I originally took the course they have changed the way the courses are delivered and now you can skip ahead in the program if you prefer.
Are you predominantly a visual learner, an auditory learner, or a kinesthetic learner? How had your learning style impacted the way you interact with the courses you’ve taken at Vintage Remedies?
I’m predominently a visual learner. The Confident Family Herbalist course has really great content in video and printable form. You can even upgrade your account so you can download the videos to your device. This is great for those with slow or spotty internet access. However, the physical books, which I think set Vintage Remedies apart from other herbal schools, are not part of the new course. While I understand their reasons for going this route, I prefer physical books for in depth learning. Of course this is just a personal preference, as I know others who really like the video format for learning.
Who do you feel would get the most out of the class you are currently taking at Vintage Remedy?
I feel like the Confident Family Herbalist course is ideal for someone who is just beginning their herbalism studies or someone like me who has some knowledge but wants a systematic course to help fill in the gaps.
What was your motivation for choosing to take the Confident Family Herbalist course at Vintage Remedy over say the Intermediate Herbalist course at HANES or another online class?
I had taken a short course with Vintage Remedies that I had gotten as a bonus in the Ultimate Healthy Living Bundle. I also joined the students’ Facebook page. I was impressed with the short course and with the way information was handled in the Facebook group.
Vintage Remedies is very focused on scientific research, not to the exclusion of acknowledging traditional herbalism but the focus is on the science. I really felt that this was a focus I needed in the beginning of my formal studies.
Is the class worth the cost to you?
Yes. The cost is definitely an investment but I feel that my family has already benefited from it and will continue to benefit from it which will save us in health care costs over the years.
What will you do with your certificate once you’ve successfully completed the course?
Honestly, nothing formal. My goal for learning about herbs is to help my family, not become a certified herbalist.
If you had to choose again, would you choose the same course or start with a different program?
I would choose the same course. I called Vintage Remedies before choosing a course and they helped walk me through what is covered in their short courses, what is covered in the longer courses and what I was wanting to learn.
Who do you think this course is meant for? Who would get the most out of it?
I think this course is meant for someone beginning their herbal journey and/or someone who is wanting to learn more about using herbs in their family.
What one thing would you change about the course you are currently enrolled in that would make it better?
hmmm, That’s a tough question. Remember when I said there was reading from the physical books in each module. Well, I’m more of a read a whole book at a time, not read portions of several books at one time. So, when the module instructions are to read Chapter 7 out of one of the books and I know I haven’t read Ch 6 out of that book, it makes me nervous. Fortunately, a quick email to my instructor calmed my nervousness.
The new course format no longer has the printed books and I would bring them back. I think the addition of printed books in the course set the Vintage Remedies course apart from other herbal courses.
Do you get test anxiety? How do you cope with the way the testing is done in the Vintage Remedy program?
I didn’t think I did until I realized there was a real test and I needed to pass in order to get access to the next module. I haven’t taken a test in over 20 years, so yeah, I was nervous. But there are no trick questions in the tests that I have taken.
The goal is really to help you learn more. Honestly, if it weren’t for the tests I wouldn’t be as diligent as I have been in my studying. Oh, and the tests are open book so really there isn’t anything to be nervous about.
Are you a Vintage Remedy Affiliate?
No. Vintage Remedies no longer has an affiliate program.
Thank you, Angi for giving us your perspective on the Vintage Remedies Classes.
I appreciate that we all have different experiences and what’s good for one person might not be a good fit for someone else. Your feedback will help each person reading this, make a wise decision about which path they should take in their own herbal studies.
Online Herbology Classes:
Review of Chestnut School of Herbs — Making Herbal Medicine Class
Review of The Herbal Academy — Intermediate Herbal Course
Review of Vintage Remedies — Family Herbalist Course (This post)
Want to know more?
You can find out more about the Vintage Remedies classes and especially the Competent Family Herbalist Course here. (not an affiliate link)
I read your reviews of on-line herbs classes. When I attempted to obtain more information about Vintage Remedies the website says they’re no longer up and running. Do you know if they’ve changed names? Do you have another recommendation of a similar course?
I appreciate your website and all the information you share.
Joybilee Farm says
Vintage remedies closed down their online school.
Several years ago I paid Vintage Remedies $800.00 to take there Family Holistic course. I was having issues and I called and emailed several times and I never recieved a response. Three weeks into the course I demanded my money back, for which they would not return my money. So, I paid a huge amount of money and couldn’t get any help. Needless to say, I was very angry and turned off by these online schools. Six months ago I stumbled across a holistic school called the School of Holistic Healing. I researched them and made a dozen calls to ask questions and they answered all my questions and were very pleasant and helpful. The one thing I love about all their course materials and books is that you can skip ahead or go back to anyone of your 3 books plus I was assigned a tutor and so far she has always got back to me within 24 hours, sometimes the same day. I am working toward getting my certification in the “Family Holistic Practitioner” course, which is a full size course. I was looking at the Franklin Institute’s 2-day course on the CBD – A scientific Approach. They are charging a whopping $300.00. I paid $400.00 for my 8-month full-size course, and yes I received it at half-off but I would greatly have paid full price for what I have recieved. Thank you, Cyndee
Joybilee Farm says
Cyndee Franklin Institute is the same people as Vintage Remedies.
Kate Pentecost says
I took a Foundations Course at Vintage Remedies and had a bad experience. I completed module one and it got erased when they made changes on their website. I was told to start over. Second time through module one I was answering question 8 when I was suddenly back on question one. It erased my work in the middle of the test. I emailed them my displeasure and have heard nothing. It takes a long time for them to answer. I also paid for the one day seminar that I understood would be available for replay for those who cannot watch live and it was not. I have an email several weeks old saying I will receive an email with a link to the replay and no email every came. I have now signed up for Rosemary Gladstar’s herbal course. What a difference even in the welcome email with information and links to get me started.
I would like to know if you have taken the Soap Making class from them. I thought it rather pricey for $200 with a discount. Just wondering what makes it that special.
Joybilee Farm says
I have not. I have looked through the soap making class by Nerdy Farm Wife and found it to be reasonably priced and very informative.